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I do appreciate comments, partly because i'm a vainglorious and self-absorbed artist who measures his worth by the words of others (i hope that's only partly true) but also because every once and then you get a good piece of insightful criticism (see almost every comment given by my good friend :iconrither:) or a statement that makes you think even when you had no intention to a moment ago.

in my latest submission, [link] :iconkarnagoz: made a nifty observation:

"One of the things I've wondered about Gogo Bomango, is that much of her charm stems from the fact that she is an attractive female. If she were a six foot tall, blonde, muscular surfer dude, would she (well, he in this case) be as adored of a character, or would he just be really weird?"

Interesting indeed, no? Speaking of the character itself, i've made allusions to bad hygiene, recklessness, social detachment, violence, stunted emotions, and the odd body mutation, but the truth of the matter is you can get away with lots of quirks and flaws when, at the end of the day, the character itself is a (generally) good-lookin woman.

More than that, a character who exists on various levels except reality is easier to embrace. In reality, attractive women can still get away with an awful lot, but their flaws become more of an obstacle. If we remove Gogo from the confines of comics and pictures and the spaces in between and make her real for the sake of argument, a few of her aforementioned deficiencies are a bit harder to get over (people who don't bathe tend to make themselves known in a hurry).But even with those flaws, there's still the benefit of the doubt. A lot of Hollywood starlets are an ongoing train wreck while a lot of attention remains focused on them because, like it or not, they are (or were, in some cases) beautiful people.

In illustrations and comics, there's even less tangible qualities  to get in the way of the pretty folks. I would venture to guess that's why the human ideal is so often at the forefront in mainstream comics. Other qualities that shape a character, make them more or less appealing, are almost ornamental in the face of their appearance. They're almost an afterthought.

If Gogo (or any number of characters, but we'll stick with her cuz i know her best, hehe) were shorter, or fatter, or just didn't have what most perceive to be good looks, how much of the character falls apart? Do the character's antics continue to be entertaining? Do we look forward to seeing the character at all? Certainly you could still find an audience. Not being beautiful doesn't completely destroy appeal, but it would change things. How it would change is harder to nail down. I don't know if i'm brave enough to try *snicker*.

Further along Karnagoz's comment, i think if the character were instead a big, well-muscled surfer guy, the dynamic indeed changes, but in a different way. I'm certain there's a well-established comic audience for musclebound guys, and they can get away with being handsome, rugged, and borderline ugly (although the stereotypical fat comic nerd might not be as appealing) but there's a bit of an apples and oranges thing going on there.

This is only one arm of an argument that could go on forever, but food for thought on a Sunday morning when i SHOULD be finishing more comic pages, hehe...

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:iconmyoneandonly:
Honestly? I think that the reason Gogo's antics are so entertaining is because her characteristics seem so atypical of an attractive character. Because people expect an attractive female character to behave, well... attractively. I, for one, would not expect anytime soon to see a movie in which Angelina Jolie (or *insert some other Hollywood-dwelling ideal of beauty*) plays a character who pulls grubs out of her hair with her toes and then proceeds to eat them. And makes it funny, in a nauseating yet endearing way. Such are the charms of Gogo. XD

P.S. Don't let Gogo kill me for comparing her to Angelina Jolie, if that offends her. XD
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:iconhubby-n-dad:
So that's why my wife get's away with so much... ;)
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:icondichigo:
~DIchigo Sep 22, 2008  Student Traditional Artist
that's an interesting way to look at it. another is more than their appearance, but their personality. my favorite characters to draw change depending on the personality and ow they express themselves.

I think part of the allure of Gogo is her wild personality and how she reacts in both the most normal and most insane of situations. Like watching a child in an unfamiliar environment [to the] and going for it, Gogo in most every environment is and either familiar or unfamiliar environments and going for broke no matter what, so i enjoy seeing the situation and her reaction to the situation.

but i'm also a girl and go more for guys on looks, or girls who have something a bit tweaked from the stereotype of what a 'normal' girl/person is
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:iconmahadma:
The thing is there is lots of pretty people but
its just facade and facade alone will not hold the roof. And I nersonaly dont like Gogo for the boobs
but for her happy go weird/wild attitude.
kinda my kin. :)
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:iconafh:
Every person has his own fetish... people like Faith for her smart stupidity, Radja for obvious shounen-ai-reasons, Vera because she's practically a fursona and Albino.. well, actually, she doesn't realy has a fanbase yet.

Gogo was, is and will always be a great character because she's funny, original and looks like me (I don't have a big ego.. the ego has me.)!

Anyway, dare I ask for information on the status of my tattoo?
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:iconlervold:
~lervold Sep 21, 2008  Professional General Artist
hmmmm it is a good point. it is hard to create characters that do not fit our archetypes and when we do, we do fall back to our usual tricks.

i have a comic, flesh and blood (you have seen it, i think) and it is some of the worst people in the world, but they are kinda pretty. also it is hard to have an ugly main character and not have something adorable about them (look at lucas, the movie) or the mask. it is very hard to have both a person that is ugly inside and in the outside. i mean, what can people relate to, if the character is ugly inside and outside?

like the american psycho?
or v in v for vendetta?
or american splendor?
they are awful characters, but they still have something great inside.

or jan in les miserables?
or the hunchback?

all these are great characters and they all have something ugly and something great. can we make a totally unlikeable character and make it work? can we create a character that is interesting to draw, to write and to read?

even charlotte is lovable, and she is a fucking spider.
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:iconvanheist:
i think it's important to note that visual appeal--whether it's beauty or ugliness--is important to comics, or animation or movies. maybe "interesting" is more important than anything else.

i remember the animated Charlotte's Web, and they made her a bit less spidery...but it's true, even with eight eyes and spider mandibles, she still had a heart of gold.
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:iconlervold:
~lervold Sep 21, 2008  Professional General Artist
i realized i just created dick chenney.
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:iconvanheist:
you beat me to it.
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:iconmanic-pixie:
well, when you think about it - her attractiveness is actually a part of her character. The way gogo's written, she uses her physical appeal to get what she wants (or torment hector) as well as rubbing it in the faces of girls like Leesha that she doesn't have to conform to be attractive. Gogo really reminds me of the kid who found that flicking the light-switch on and off annoys Daddy, and will KEEP DOING SO until consequences hit.
Then again, if Gogo was less attractive it may change the way she reacts to other people - but i doubt it would change her following. As an example I designed a deliberately unfeminine, and what i was told unappealing female character [link] (read mullet and broad shoulders and a face like a horse), who seems to have attracted a bit of a following. She even managed to win a beauty contest. Just goes to show, you never can tell...
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